Female attraction to beards and tattoos

[Disaffected]

And another one I like....

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, 'The good outnumber you, and we always will.'

Not misandry though lol.

 

[EveWasFramed]

And another one I like....

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, 'The good outnumber you, and we always will.'

Not misandry though lol.

It's not MY quote. I can't help that was left out.

 

[Disaffected]

And another one I like....

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, 'The good outnumber you, and we always will.'

Not misandry though lol.

It's not MY quote. I can't help that was left out.

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[TheSkaFish]

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, 'The good outnumber you, and we always will.'

See, in the context of this particular situation, that bothers me. It's implying that I am in the wrong because I refuse to be tolerant of a mentally unstable, hard drug-using, tattooed tough guy, and others of his type. He isn't the good guy here, he isn't an innocent victim of prejudice. None of the people who do those things are. It bothers me to see them get apologized for, to me, it's another example of how tough guy "rebels" are allowed to do all kinds of bad behavior without judgment, because of how people romanticize them into something they aren't. Sure they might get punished by the law here and there, but in people's minds, particularly women's minds, they can do no wrong because they are so "badass". That's what irritates me.

I'm burnt out on this. My views aren't going to cool off for some time yet. I'm going to try and not think about it now.

 

[EveWasFramed]

And another one I like....

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, 'The good outnumber you, and we always will.'

Not misandry though lol.

It's not MY quote. I can't help that was left out.

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^^ I laughed out loud.

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So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, 'The good outnumber you, and we always will.'

See, in the context of this particular situation, that bothers me. It's implying that I am in the wrong because I refuse to be tolerant of a mentally unstable, hard drug-using, tattooed tough guy, and others of his type. He isn't the good guy here, he isn't an innocent victim of prejudice. None of the people who do those things are. It bothers me to see them get apologized for, to me, it's another example of how tough guy "rebels" are allowed to do all kinds of bad behavior without judgment, because of how people romanticize them into something they aren't. Sure they might get punished by the law here and there, but in people's minds, particularly women's minds, they can do no wrong because they are so "badass". That's what irritates me.

I'm burnt out on this. My views aren't going to cool off for some time yet. I'm going to try and not think about it now.

Nope. Im not suggesting poor behavior is acceptable. I'm only suggesting that you seem somewhat intolerant. Not just about tattoos, but other things as well. Your use of the word "jock-ish" actually bothered me more than the rest of it. lol

 

[TheRealCallie]

So, it's only okay when you deem it to be. I gotcha ya.

More like, the way I see this issue at this point in time, it would take that much for me to be okay with it. Perhaps people don't like my views on this, but at the same time, I don't really like being told I should be okay with everyone.

If I'm going to change my mind on this at least to a level of acceptance, then it would be most helpful to not be made to feel that people are pushing their thoughts on me.

It's good that you are willing to change your view, at least a little. But, how would you feel if people were judging you on your appearance, on what you eat, on how you dress, on what kind of dog you have?

You've already admitted that you don't like these people because of ONE person you know OF....can you honestly not see how judgmental and messed up that is?

 

[VanillaCreme]

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, 'The good outnumber you, and we always will.'

See, in the context of this particular situation, that bothers me. It's implying that I am in the wrong because I refuse to be tolerant of a mentally unstable, hard drug-using, tattooed tough guy, and others of his type. He isn't the good guy here, he isn't an innocent victim of prejudice. None of the people who do those things are. It bothers me to see them get apologized for, to me, it's another example of how tough guy "rebels" are allowed to do all kinds of bad behavior without judgment, because of how people romanticize them into something they aren't. Sure they might get punished by the law here and there, but in people's minds, particularly women's minds, they can do no wrong because they are so "badass". That's what irritates me.

I'm burnt out on this. My views aren't going to cool off for some time yet. I'm going to try and not think about it now.

Nope. Im not suggesting poor behavior is acceptable. I'm only suggesting that you seem somewhat intolerant. Not just about tattoos, but other things as well. Your use of the word "jock-ish" actually bothered me more than the rest of it. lol

Very intolerant. To the point where you contradict yourself. Who are you to judge? You don't make any difference in changing these views into something positive. Refusing to change, to break the cycle, and then complaining about it doesn't really do justice.

 

[TheRealCallie]

See, in the context of this particular situation, that bothers me. It's implying that I am in the wrong because I refuse to be tolerant of a mentally unstable, hard drug-using, tattooed tough guy, and others of his type. He isn't the good guy here, he isn't an innocent victim of prejudice. None of the people who do those things are. It bothers me to see them get apologized for, to me, it's another example of how tough guy "rebels" are allowed to do all kinds of bad behavior without judgment, because of how people romanticize them into something they aren't. Sure they might get punished by the law here and there, but in people's minds, particularly women's minds, they can do no wrong because they are so "badass". That's what irritates me.

I'm burnt out on this. My views aren't going to cool off for some time yet. I'm going to try and not think about it now.

Not everyone who uses drugs or is mentally unstable has tattoos. You know this right?

You seem to think everyone with a tattoo is a criminal. They aren't. Just as many people without tattoos go unpunished for a crime they committed.

 

[Badjedidude]

I know a guy who has a tattoo of the logo of his favorite podcast. lol

 

[EveWasFramed]

So, it's only okay when you deem it to be. I gotcha ya.

More like, the way I see this issue at this point in time, it would take that much for me to be okay with it. Perhaps people don't like my views on this, but at the same time, I don't really like being told I should be okay with everyone.

If I'm going to change my mind on this at least to a level of acceptance, then it would be most helpful to not be made to feel that people are pushing their thoughts on me.

It's good that you are willing to change your view, at least a little. But, how would you feel if people were judging you on your appearance, on what you eat, on how you dress, on what kind of dog you have?

You've already admitted that you don't like these people because of ONE person you know OF....can you honestly not see how judgmental and messed up that is?

You know...I wonder sometimes, if some people have such narrow views of things because they haven't had much life experience...other cultures, walks of life...perhaps the environment they were raised in? Not even pointing a finger at Ska here...just a thought in general I suppose.

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I know a guy who has a tattoo of the logo of his favorite podcast. lol

That's kinda messed up.

 

[murmi97]

You never know -- I'll bet RBF affects guys too.

What is RBF? Reel Big Fish? I'm not sure what you mean.

Resting ***** Face

 

[EveWasFramed]

^^ LOL!

 

[Solivagant]

You know...I wonder sometimes, if some people have such narrow views of things because they haven't had much life experience...other cultures, walks of life...perhaps the environment they were raised in?

I was saying exactly the same thing to someone the other day. I think some people's worlds are very small. Once you really discover the variety of people there are out there, it's hard to make assumptions based on appearance, gender, or anything else.

 

[EveWasFramed]

You know...I wonder sometimes, if some people have such narrow views of things because they haven't had much life experience...other cultures, walks of life...perhaps the environment they were raised in?

I was saying exactly the same thing to someone the other day. I think some people's worlds are very small. Once you really discover the variety of people there are out there, it's hard to make assumptions based on appearance, gender, or anything else.

Great post/thought!

 

[VanillaCreme]

You know...I wonder sometimes, if some people have such narrow views of things because they haven't had much life experience...other cultures, walks of life...perhaps the environment they were raised in?

I was saying exactly the same thing to someone the other day. I think some people's worlds are very small. Once you really discover the variety of people there are out there, it's hard to make assumptions based on appearance, gender, or anything else.

I think it also helps when someone receives goodness from an unexpected source. It can kind of lift a shade on how one would assume someone would act based on certain things. That just because they look or even act a certain way, doesn't mean they're always like that.

 

[TheSkaFish]

It's good that you are willing to change your view, at least a little. But, how would you feel if people were judging you on your appearance, on what you eat, on how you dress, on what kind of dog you have?

You've already admitted that you don't like these people because of ONE person you know OF....can you honestly not see how judgmental and messed up that is?

I am indeed open to the possibility that my views may balance out in the future. And I wouldn't like it if someone judged me for appearance, food choice, or anything else. But at the same time, it's not the same thing if I haven't actually done any of the things they are accusing me of.

It's one person I'm judging, yes. Maybe that's wrong. But I'm sure this scenario has happened many times before.

Honestly, it's not even the tattoos themselves that are the biggest problem I have. I just don't like the cultural phenomenon that says that rebels and criminals are romanticized, just for being rebels and criminals. I don't think drugs and gangs and crime and acting "hard" is cool. I think it's choosing to fail.

It's that I'm aggravated when a man's image, such as tattoos but it could be anything, makes up for the things he's done that suggest he is not boyfriend material for anyone, and not even a good person. But because he has the image, it doesn't matter. I don't know. I'm of the mindset that a stable, sane, mature, good guy doesn't go around overdosing on drugs and spending time in jail, and that stuff like that should carry more weight than what he looks like.

 

[EveWasFramed]

I'm of the mindset that a stable, sane, mature, good guy doesn't go around overdosing on drugs and spending time in jail, and that stuff like that should carry more weight than what he looks like.

Well that's a perfectly reasonable opinion.

 

[Solivagant]

I think it also helps when someone receives goodness from an unexpected source.

Very true! I imagine there are many things that could make a difference.

I'm of the mindset that a stable, sane, mature, good guy doesn't go around overdosing on drugs and spending time in jail, and that stuff like that should carry more weight than what he looks like.

Out of curiosity, how old is this guy? I remember that the girl you talk about is 19/almost 20, so I'm just wondering if he is quite young as well.

 

[TheRealCallie]

Out of curiosity, how old is this guy? I remember that the girl you talk about is 19/almost 20, so I'm just wondering if he is quite young as well.

He's the girl's boyfriend.....You know, the one that "stole" the girl from SkaFish.

 

[Solivagant]

Out of curiosity, how old is this guy? I remember that the girl you talk about is 19/almost 20, so I'm just wondering if he is quite young as well.

He's the girl's boyfriend.....You know, the one that "stole" the girl from SkaFish.

Yeah, that's why I was curious if they were close in age.