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Do prescribed medc count? =/ I take Seroquel Celexa and Remeron, and they really work. The only thing is that they also numb some other aspects of my personality...
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I've got a question maybe someone here would be able to explain.. I've been trying some of these natural anti-depressants/anxiety products lately.
I've tried 5-HTP in capsule form, I haven't found it anywhere in caplet form or anything I could easily split into half/quarter sizes. I found 50mg capsules of 5-HTP didn't have much effect on me, I tried increasing that to 100mg and felt much better but the effect didn't last as long as I would like. Interestingly, the packaging says not to take more than 100mg per day. I'm currently taking approximately 200-300mg over the period of a whole day. I've found very conflicting statements on the proper dosage for 5-HTP on the internet. It does work for me, and I haven't had any severe mood changes since taking it (a few days now), so overall I'm pretty happy with 5-HTP.
Today I picked up some St. John's Wort in 1500mg caplets (the only size I could find at the drug store). I have not taken these yet as I plan to clear the 5-HTP out of my system before trying it to be safe (I am aware St John's Wort has an effect on other medications/supplements, speeding up their effect). I don't take any medication or other supplements (apart from the odd use of melatonin, but I find it doesn't help that much with sleep for me) so it should be safe.
So with regard to St John's Wort, i'm curious why it was sold as 1500mg caplets. The label actually suggests taking 3 of these a day, which seems insane. I searched google for dosage information on it and found most sites suggest taking about 1000mg over the course of a day. In any case, I plan to break one of these apart into quarters, I'll start by taking 2-3 a day and see how I feel. I might go back to 5-HTP, but it sounds like St John's Wort is better suited to all day use, and it has a good reputation for working well as a natural anti-depressant.
So I'm wondering, to those out there taking St. John's Wort, what dosage works for you?
Sorry that was kind of long and indirect to the question, I tend to rant
Great thread by the way!
I've tried 5-HTP in capsule form, I haven't found it anywhere in caplet form or anything I could easily split into half/quarter sizes. I found 50mg capsules of 5-HTP didn't have much effect on me, I tried increasing that to 100mg and felt much better but the effect didn't last as long as I would like. Interestingly, the packaging says not to take more than 100mg per day. I'm currently taking approximately 200-300mg over the period of a whole day. I've found very conflicting statements on the proper dosage for 5-HTP on the internet. It does work for me, and I haven't had any severe mood changes since taking it (a few days now), so overall I'm pretty happy with 5-HTP.
Today I picked up some St. John's Wort in 1500mg caplets (the only size I could find at the drug store). I have not taken these yet as I plan to clear the 5-HTP out of my system before trying it to be safe (I am aware St John's Wort has an effect on other medications/supplements, speeding up their effect). I don't take any medication or other supplements (apart from the odd use of melatonin, but I find it doesn't help that much with sleep for me) so it should be safe.
So with regard to St John's Wort, i'm curious why it was sold as 1500mg caplets. The label actually suggests taking 3 of these a day, which seems insane. I searched google for dosage information on it and found most sites suggest taking about 1000mg over the course of a day. In any case, I plan to break one of these apart into quarters, I'll start by taking 2-3 a day and see how I feel. I might go back to 5-HTP, but it sounds like St John's Wort is better suited to all day use, and it has a good reputation for working well as a natural anti-depressant.
So I'm wondering, to those out there taking St. John's Wort, what dosage works for you?
Sorry that was kind of long and indirect to the question, I tend to rant
Great thread by the way!
The plant St. John Wort has anti-depressant qualities, but like any anti depressant, you would have to take it for awhile to get anything out of it. Chamomile and Lavender have relaxing effects to relieve stress. Echinacea to boost your immune system. Golden Rod for fighting infection. Gingko for increasing blood flow to the brain. The Sun is a good source for happiness & Vitamin D.
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I tried fish oil. It seemed to help. But then I stopped for some reason...
Usually....what I did to help with my depression was to determine if there was an actual cause to my depression.
If i was depressed and realized I didnt sleep much the night before, i'd make sure to sleep enough the next night.
Sometimes depression has actual triggers that you need to pay attention to and if you do so, it helps.
Medication in any form isnt always neccesary.
If i was depressed and realized I slept on the floor the night before, i'd make sure to sleep in my bed the next night.
If i was depressed and hadnt eaten much that day, i'd make sure to eat more the next day.
If i was depressed and realized i hadnt bathed that day (ok ew i know), I'd make sure to bathe the next day..
Depression can have an actual trigger if you can pinpoint when you actually became depressed and see a cause behind it.
Medication in any form (natural or pharmeceutical)isnt always neccessary.
Usually....what I did to help with my depression was to determine if there was an actual cause to my depression.
If i was depressed and realized I didnt sleep much the night before, i'd make sure to sleep enough the next night.
Sometimes depression has actual triggers that you need to pay attention to and if you do so, it helps.
Medication in any form isnt always neccesary.
If i was depressed and realized I slept on the floor the night before, i'd make sure to sleep in my bed the next night.
If i was depressed and hadnt eaten much that day, i'd make sure to eat more the next day.
If i was depressed and realized i hadnt bathed that day (ok ew i know), I'd make sure to bathe the next day..
Depression can have an actual trigger if you can pinpoint when you actually became depressed and see a cause behind it.
Medication in any form (natural or pharmeceutical)isnt always neccessary.
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I don't even try taking up any vitamins or supplements for depression. All I am doing is that I just sleep the whole day of it and the other day will gonna be fine. You will be depress if you are thinking too seriously a certain problem. And, if I where you, don't make your life too complicated. Make it easy. Enjoy your life my dear!
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Over sleeping isnt always the best thing to do. Certain times I might get around 5-6 hours of sleep and feel energized, and this other day when i was extrememly exausted from busting my ass at work, I slept for 9 hours straight. I felt sluggish and drained when I woke up. And when it comes down to taking certain vitamins and/or supplements, its all basically about your body and its ability to absorb certain nutrients. If your body feels it has all of the nutrients that it needs, you will end up pissing out such nutrients. And who is to say the stuff you are taking is actually the stuff that it is said to be, or just some lab made imitation.
My sister has depression and takes drugs for it. You have to be careful with them. Now my sister is hooked to them and if she tries to get off them she becomes worse than before she began taking the medicine. not good dude
I haven't taken any prescription medications because I don't have the money to buy them, and I don't have the guts to go see a specialist who can give me a prescription. I have been taking Omega 3 (Fish Oil) for the last few weeks and it seems to have improved my mood quite a bit, but it doesn't get much better then that.
I find a good strong cup of coffee can also temporarily lift my mood, but it effects my sleeping pattern which for me is a negative side effect.
I have also taken Ginkgo Biloba which seems to make me extremely angry and agitated. Maybe I just took it at a bad time, I don't think it's supposed to have an instant effect anyway, is it?
I find a good strong cup of coffee can also temporarily lift my mood, but it effects my sleeping pattern which for me is a negative side effect.
I have also taken Ginkgo Biloba which seems to make me extremely angry and agitated. Maybe I just took it at a bad time, I don't think it's supposed to have an instant effect anyway, is it?
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I take 6 SAM-E Tablets a day (Nature Made) I take St. Johns Wort (Nature Made) and Vitamin B Complex (Nature Made). I find all three help with my general mood, but no pill or vitamin in my book really cures loneliness. I enjoy running-that in istelf gives me such a high and sense of accomplishment.
I've done a lot of research into this.
St. John's Wort is a great herb for mild to moderate depression. Most of the products available in super markets is bs. However, a lot of studies have been done on specific extracts that have had extensive clinical studies. The extract is called ws5570. I don't want to advertise products on here, but if you search for that extract, I think you'll find two products that contain this. Trust me. If you search for it on pubmed.gov, you'll find a lot of clinical tests. You need to take this in divided doses for a couple weeks for it to work. Some people report results quickly, but this is the tested protocol.
Vitamin D is also a useful supplement. However, I would not take more than 1000 IU a day without doctor supervision.
I wouldn't recommend SAM-E. Not many studies have been performed in the past decade. I especially would not take it with St. John's Wort, as the interactions are not known, and St. John's Wort has been known to affect A LOT of medication's efficacy.
St. John's Wort is a great herb for mild to moderate depression. Most of the products available in super markets is bs. However, a lot of studies have been done on specific extracts that have had extensive clinical studies. The extract is called ws5570. I don't want to advertise products on here, but if you search for that extract, I think you'll find two products that contain this. Trust me. If you search for it on pubmed.gov, you'll find a lot of clinical tests. You need to take this in divided doses for a couple weeks for it to work. Some people report results quickly, but this is the tested protocol.
Vitamin D is also a useful supplement. However, I would not take more than 1000 IU a day without doctor supervision.
I wouldn't recommend SAM-E. Not many studies have been performed in the past decade. I especially would not take it with St. John's Wort, as the interactions are not known, and St. John's Wort has been known to affect A LOT of medication's efficacy.
L-Tryptophan taken with B-6 actually creates Seratonin in the brain and lifts Depression
look for books by Joan Mathews Larson (used on Amazon.com is a lot cheaper)
http://www.healthrecovery.com/
lots of great information
look for books by Joan Mathews Larson (used on Amazon.com is a lot cheaper)
http://www.healthrecovery.com/
lots of great information
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