Holy crap, I cannot believe I'm doing this. So much for self control ...
Jeff said:
Guys, you know whats funny? Women. Especially ones from Norway. You try to have a rational discussion with them. You tell them you agree on certain things but disagree on others. Then when they realize they can't get you to completely agree with them on EVERYTHING, they get all frustrated!!! They start accusing you of changing the definitions of words and not understanding their point of view. Then they stomp out of the place in a huff.
1. Indeed, women are funny. Norwegian ones in particular are known for their great sense of humour.
2. Very little about your way of discussing has been rational.
3. You've not once said that you agreed on any of the things I've said, Maybe what some others has said, but since this rant is clearly about me, I don't think those should count.
4. I get frustrated when you won't understand what I'm saying, not because you don't completely agree.
5. I haven't accused you of changing the definition of terms, I simply pointed out the fact that you do. (E.g. the meaning of the term "bad boy", which you, for some mysterious reason, still seem to think is about looks. Can't you just google it, at least?)
6. No stomping or huffing happened. I declared that I gave up on continuing this mockery of a "debate" since it's clearly only headed towards "let's be as rude as we possibly can" land (something you've already managed to prove countless times).
Jeff said:
But that's women for you. Typical women logic... they want you to give them 100% while they give you nothing.. they want you to put them on a pedestal... and if you don't.. YOU'RE JUST AN EVIL SELFISH MAN!! lol Funny.
You know what really is funny? That you manage to take "a few girls on a forum disagrees with my false accusations about them" to "typical women logic to demand everything and give nothing". Now that is simply hilarious, and quite impressive. Wow. No, really. My mind is blown by this, and if I no longer make any sense, this is why.
Jeff said:
And speaking of girls from Norway.. I just got this msg in my box.. from some girl named Equinox..
Aaah, yes, let's throw absolutely ALL manners and netiqette completely into the ocean and start quoting personal messages in a public thread. How very mature of you; you just keep impressing us all. I can tell you're a savvy and eloquent forum debater. But by all means; there is nothing in that PM that I'm ashamed of. You're just making a bigger ass of yourself. However, just for the principle of it, I will report this.
Jeff said:
Gentlemen, this is the type of women you have to deal with out there. You may want a girlfriend badly but after hearing stuff like this you have to ask yourself, are women worth all this trouble? Maybe you're just better off single? The point here isn't about Equinox, the point is that this is typical women behavior... women love to argue, all the time. Then when they don't get their way they get all hissy and try to make you out to be the bad guy.. don't fall for it guys.
Yes, gentlemen, this is the type of women you have to deal with out there. Women who have opinions. Women who won't accept men bullying them, bashing them, blaming them for everything that is wrong with their lives, or making false accusations about them. Women who won't just sit there and take it when you're being a dick. Women who'll speak their mind, who'll challenge your narrow minded opinions, and who won't just sit quitely and listen to your misconception of things. And boy, do we love to argue; whenever someone is wrong, that is. It sure is a good thing that MEN don't love to argue, or one might suddenly find oneself in the middle of a heated forum argument - oh, wait ...
Jeff said:
Online teenagers? Hmm, I said I was 25. But I wouldn't expect you to pick that up since your reading comprehension is lacking.
Any person can write down any digits and say this is their age. You might claim to be 25, but your opinions and the way you express them indicates something else. If you're gonna behave like a sour teenager, that's how people will treat you.
Jeff said:
And the basics of life? You're gonna teach me the basics of life? What basics, that me and other men are supposed to just keep asking out women and getting rejected? Do you not understand the psychological damage that can induce over time?
Nah, I've pretty much given up on teaching you anything. Judging by the later posts about koalas and beards, I guess the same goes for almost everyone else, as well. If you're interested in these basics, all you have to do is read my previous answers - and everyone else's. I've NEVER said that "men are supposed to just keep asking out women and getting rejected" - how do you come up with these wild ideas? Again, for an answer on this, see my (or other) previous posts. Try actually READING and UNDERSTANDING them this time around, instead of just browsing them and looking for minor details to quarrel about.
Jeff said:
Or by basics of life, did you mean that it is women's birth right to be approached by men? Do you not realize that there are women that enjoy rejecting men? They get a kick out of it. It boosts their ego and self-confidence.
Uhm, no, I've never said that, either. There are no "birthrights" when it comes to dating and relationship, not for women, not for men. However, the OP seems to think that there is - for men, at least. I'm sure there are women who enjoy rejecting men, like there are also men who enjoy rejecting women. But I've already explained the whole "whichever argument you make against women will also apply to men" thing earlier, and if you didn't get it then, you probably won't get it now either, so I won't repeat myself. (Though I think I might have accidentally repeated myself just now. Oh well.)
Jeff said:
But the guys that keep getting rejected over and over again, well their confidence just goes down the drain. But I guess they're just men, so who cares about them... that's the basics of life from Equinox right?
Alright, fine. You got me. You win. You totally win. You sure nailed me there. That is in fact the basics of life I was talking about. Of course I believe that men aren't worth caring about, none of them, ever, at all, and my biggest wish is for them to completely lose all self esteem and faith in themselves. This is actually what all women want. None of us care about men. If you only knew how much time we spend on making plans for the worst possible rejections to the billions of guys who ask us out all the time, you'd be mortified. I might as well admit it. We're all nothing but evil witches. Oh yeah. I applaud your brilliant insight.
Jeff said:
You also didn't respond to my last post to you. But I guess that's because you're too scared to come back to this thread. Many evil logical-thinking men here right?
You're finally right about one thing: I was/am scared of coming back to this thread, because it's nothing but a farce. As for the evil logical-thinking men here, I have seen none. I actually don't believe you're evil, and I KNOW you're not logical-thinking - and that's what scares me the most.
Jeff said:
I have real life experience and statistics to back me up, all you have is your sisterhood of dopey women who refuse to admit that men have it harder in the dating scene than women.
Statistics is nothing but numbers. I've already read the scientific articles that explains how statistics can be used to completely misrepresent basically anything, depending on what point the creater of the statistics wants to get across. And I find it interesting that YOUR real life experience should be treated as valuable facts of life, while WOMEN's real life experiences is nothing but a "sisterhood of dopey women who refuses to admit something something wah wah whatever". Very interesting indeed.
Jeff said:
So by your "logic," I'm an idiot because I didn't stop posting when you and a few others disagree with me? If I did that, I would not be an idiot, I'd be a coward. And I'm sure as hell not afraid of some angry PMS keyboard bandit from Norway.
But by your "logic" you win because you quit and run away? Laughable, to say the least.
I'm impressed by the amount of wrongness you're able to construct within just a few sentences. Again, my mind is blown. By my "logic", you're making an idiot of yourself (which is not the same thing as saying "you are an idiot" btw) because:
1. You keep making the same points, even after SEVERAL people have explained to you why they're not valid - not because I and a "few" others disagree with you.
2. You actually manage to dig yourself into the position where you turn to "PMS" as an excuse for why I defend myself from your endless bashing.
And finally, by my "logic" I (and everyone else) win because we're able to read your arguments and explain why they're invalid - whereas YOU try to counter our arguments by saying "I've never personally experienced this so it can't possibly be true, and you women only make excuses because you know I'm right and because you're PMSing". This is hilarious. It really is.
I was earlier a little annoyed with the OP for his dismissive way of treating every argument against him, but I didn't have the impression of him being viscious or anything - just bitter, young, inexperienced and placing his blame and bitterness in the wrong place. You, however, have done almost nothing but attack individuals since you joined in (starting with your attack on dk1967), and generally treating questions and answers directed at you with in an aggressive and childlike manner. You can make as many comments and claims about women as you want, but you know who the real experts on women is? Yes, WOMEN. Of course you'll refuse to believe it, but whether you like it or not, this is the truth.
Phew, can't believe I just spent 20 minutes of my life writing all this. How will I now have time to answer my 50 messages from that dating site??
