EveWasFramed
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Nightwing said:If your reason is "great tits" then please stop reading this, as I don't think you should be reproducing anyway.
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Nightwing said:If your reason is "great tits" then please stop reading this, as I don't think you should be reproducing anyway.
Mike413 said:I suppose I started this thread because I was tired of hearing guys say they wanted or expected women to approach them. Imo, it just doesn't USUALLY work that way. Not for most guys anyway. If you want women to approach you and it's that important to you you can do a few things.
1. Become famous or a celebrity (women like celebrities)
2. Hire a prostitute (sure you have to approach them but it's pretty much a rejection free kind of thing).
3. Become a musician and join a band. Women like musicians.
4. Stop whining about it and learn how to get better with women. Approach the woman in a non needy but friendly way. Let her know that she has to work for you and not the other way around. Tell her you would like to be friends and if she is cool and friendly and not high maintenance like a lot of women you will consider asking her out.
EveWasFramed said:Mike413 said:I suppose I started this thread because I was tired of hearing guys say they wanted or expected women to approach them. Imo, it just doesn't USUALLY work that way. Not for most guys anyway. If you want women to approach you and it's that important to you you can do a few things.
1. Become famous or a celebrity (women like celebrities)
2. Hire a prostitute (sure you have to approach them but it's pretty much a rejection free kind of thing).
3. Become a musician and join a band. Women like musicians.
4. Stop whining about it and learn how to get better with women. Approach the woman in a non needy but friendly way. Let her know that she has to work for you and not the other way around. Tell her you would like to be friends and if she is cool and friendly and not high maintenance like a lot of women you will consider asking her out.
^^ And when she snorts at you (meaning anyone) for being a misogynistic pig and a jerkish *********, you will then know how NOT to talk to someone you're interested in.
That has to be the lamest advice I've ever read and I HOPE it was a joke or an attempt at sarcasm.
Mike413 said:But the unfortunate reality is a woman is more likely to go for a guy who treats them like crap then who treats them like a princess.
Mike413 said:However, if you are a guy who is struggling with women you don't want to be either guy. You want to be somewhere in the middle: an assertive guy who has confidence and is lots of fun to be around...
Mike413 said:There will be no snorting involved if you show confidence and act as though the woman cannot manipulate you. If the guy was being a jerkish ********* then good for him. Women love badboys anyway so it's a win win. But the unfortunate reality is a woman is more likely to go for a guy who treats them like crap then who treats them like a princess. I know most women don't want to admit this but everyone knows it's true. If that is being mysognistic then so be it. I'd rather live in reality than women's made up fantasies that don't have any bearing in what women are attracted to. Trust me there is often a huge difference between what women say they want in a man and the guy they really go for.
Mike413 said:I suppose I started this thread because I was tired of hearing guys say they wanted or expected women to approach them. Imo, it just doesn't USUALLY work that way. Not for most guys anyway. If you want women to approach you and it's that important to you you can do a few things.
1. Become famous or a celebrity (women like celebrities)
2. Hire a prostitute (sure you have to approach them but it's pretty much a rejection free kind of thing).
3. Become a musician and join a band. Women like musicians.
4. Stop whining about it and learn how to get better with women. Approach the woman in a non needy but friendly way. Let her know that she has to work for you and not the other way around. Tell her you would like to be friends and if she is cool and friendly and not high maintenance like a lot of women you will consider asking her out.
jaguarundi said:I only just read Mikey-boys heroic contributions, and I have to say it was one of the best birthday presents I have had on this my natal day.
I laughed so hard I nearly fell off my chair, and snort - I practically inhaled my own face
What a prize! Gosh, with all the girls just throwing themselves at him because of his winning ways, I'm surprised he has any time to post at all... *chortles all afternoon*
EveWasFramed said:Mike413 said:There will be no snorting involved if you show confidence and act as though the woman cannot manipulate you. If the guy was being a jerkish ********* then good for him. Women love badboys anyway so it's a win win. But the unfortunate reality is a woman is more likely to go for a guy who treats them like crap then who treats them like a princess. I know most women don't want to admit this but everyone knows it's true. If that is being mysognistic then so be it. I'd rather live in reality than women's made up fantasies that don't have any bearing in what women are attracted to. Trust me there is often a huge difference between what women say they want in a man and the guy they really go for.
Uh huh. And how's that attitude working for you so far, Mikey?
*SNORTS*
Triple Bogey said:Mike413 said:I suppose I started this thread because I was tired of hearing guys say they wanted or expected women to approach them. Imo, it just doesn't USUALLY work that way. Not for most guys anyway. If you want women to approach you and it's that important to you you can do a few things.
1. Become famous or a celebrity (women like celebrities)
2. Hire a prostitute (sure you have to approach them but it's pretty much a rejection free kind of thing).
3. Become a musician and join a band. Women like musicians.
4. Stop whining about it and learn how to get better with women. Approach the woman in a non needy but friendly way. Let her know that she has to work for you and not the other way around. Tell her you would like to be friends and if she is cool and friendly and not high maintenance like a lot of women you will consider asking her out.
1 and 3 sound childish.
2 hardly helps in the long run
4 will get you a slap in the face.
Mike413 said:Women might not want to admit this but they secretly don't want a guy who is .....
Sci-Fi said:People don't like your comments, so they are inclined to disagree.
The one person that I see who is being disrespectful is you Mike. Knock it off, you want people to show you respect show it towards other people. You show disrespect towards them, they will do it right back and that is exactly what is happening here.
Further more, don't be calling anyone names, I don't care if it is not directed towards members, but calling women bitches on a whole when we have female members is incredibly disrespectful.
Guys like you give men a bad name. I for one am ashamed to be classed in the same species with someone like you.
You can call me disrespectful if you like, because I am. You haven't shown anyone respect so you won't get it from me.
Minus said:Mike413 said:Women might not want to admit this but they secretly don't want a guy who is .....
Ya gotta love it. Explaining to a woman what she really wants because you know that they are either to simple minded or deceitful to know themselves what they want. Fortunate it is simplified by the fact that they all want the same thing.
Mike413 said:so you are going on ignore. Congratulations.
Nightwing said:LeaningIntoTheMuse said:What bothers me is that it is a double edged sword, for shy men. If we come on too strong, we're creepy. If we sit back and let her do the approaching, we aren't interested.
Where is the middle ground? I've asked this on at least four different forums, including here, and never had an answer. I always just get a "Oh, it'll just happen" nonsense which is frankly insulting at this point.
I can see that and I can see how it's unhelpful.
The major thing which helps here is confidence. The ability to relax. From my experience... there are women who will never be interested in you. No matter what you say or what your approach is. So what I do for confidence is to tell myself. "She won't be interested. Let's go have a laugh." That way, if she's not interested... I was right and I lose nothing. I think some groups of guys have a similar method of getting their courage up. They'll dare each other to do something stupid/outrageous etc. The principle is the same.
The most successful "middle ground" as I've found, tends to be simplicity itself. Walk up, smile and say hello. Say you spotted her and mention whatever it was about her physically you liked. If your reason is "great tits" then please stop reading this, as I don't think you should be reproducing anyway.
jaguarundi said:The thing of it is - we cannot know, really, why another person isn't nice to us. Maybe it's because they really are not nice people - or, maybe their dog has just died, their father left with another woman, their grades at work or school have been poor, they have a migraine - who the fresia knows?.
It's great as we get older to try to be more polite. But when a chap has asked you out by putting his hand up you skirt to feel your c*** (and yes, this also has happened to me) it can be a tad difficult just afterwards to be nice when another guy approaches you. Who will then think 'what a c***' when you are a bit - short - with him. And ditto with what women can do to men.
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